Dive into Episode #118 of the Psych Health and Safety USA Podcast, featuring host Dr. I. David Daniels, PhD, CSD, VPS, and special guest Dr. Jacob Kendall, discussing his experience dealing with chronic pain and advocating for his health using an interdisciplinary approach. Physical pain is your body’s way of letting you know something is wrong. It leads you to address ailments or seek treatment for injuries. However, there’s also a psychological aspect to pain. People who experience chronic pain are much more likely to develop mood and anxiety disorders. Persistent chronic pain can make you feel depressed and hopeless, leave you feeling anxious as you ruminate over your condition, or result in an addiction to pain medication. These feelings can then exacerbate the pain you’re experiencing. In this conversation, Dr. Kendall shares his lived experience advocating for his health through the complexities of the healthcare system and helping others advocate for themselves through an interdisciplinary approach driven by four-dimensional thinking.